Pics from a newbie...

[adarsh1398]

hi guys....m pretty new to photography....posting some of my pics(unaltered)...need your views....these are clicked from mobile camera(N72)....please give your comments....

http://www.thephotographer.in/darkroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=710&d=1260250968

http://www.thephotographer.in/darkroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=711&d=1260250968

http://www.thephotographer.in/darkroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=712&d=1260250968

http://www.thephotographer.in/darkroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=713&d=1260250968

http://www.thephotographer.in/darkroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=714&d=1260250968

http://www.thephotographer.in/darkroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=715&d=1260250968

http://www.thephotographer.in/darkroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=716&d=1260250968

http://www.thephotographer.in/darkroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=717&d=1260250968

[KrishnenduKes]

Photo Critique Approved

[arijit]

pic1- better if clicked as portrait than landscape. the extra space on the right and left doesnt have anything to do with the subject(except the symmetry that doesnt hold good when you look the bottom of the frame) while full featuring of the people clicking photos would have added to the theme. other suggestion is to crop all the extras
pic 2,3- well framed
pic 5- the railing is disturbing otherwise a well framed click. again better if cropped
pic 7-slight more accuracy in framing would have made it look much better

[anvancy-(macro analyst)]

now its a cam mobile..hmm

no1: nice.its showcasing the sheer beauty of Lord Shiva.good shot.my personal fav from the lot.

no 2: kinda those spooky look..interesting.

no 3:is a big oops..no yellow..

no 4:a decent one.nothing to write about.

no 5:mysore palace..a decent shot.

no 6:its totally underexposed.so a goner.

no 7 and 8 are decent but have tilted horizons..

keep on clicking.

Anvancy

[Bibudesh]

@adarsh1398 - The shots are not appealing at all to me ,I have common comments for all the shots-

Number-1 A mobile camera is not suitable to capture the physical beauty of any subject say a temple, landscape etc. But it can be good enough if you are capturing something which does not require high-endness of a camera.

Street photography, abstract is something well suited for a mobile cam. In these subjects you need more of brains than the technology.

All the shots posted by you belongs to one category of shots which needs clarity, better colour, resolution, sharpness, bokeh, DOF etc. which a mobile camera is not capable of doing to a large extent.
This statement maybe controversial since I have seen many people doing wonders with their SE W810i, which I to my best never able to achieve those results.

Number -2 When you are taking any shot you may have something in your mind before composing. I am still trying to understand what was there in your mind before clicking the second drawing room shot !? To me it looks lilke a trial shot for your mobile, I cannot term it as 'Photography'.

Sometimes if you think that people are unable to get the meaning behind subject then tag your shots with some punchline.

I think I am quite clear (though sounding a lil harsh :-P )

[hitanshu]

I'd agree with Bibudesh here - just being constructive and not critical.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/justtj/ has good examples on composition
http://www.flickr.com/photos/justtj/4165775358/ is a case in point. The very poignance of the moment is what is superb. It doesn't matter which cam - but that application of thought seems to be lacking mostly!

[KrishnenduKes]

Sometimes if you think that people are unable to get the meaning behind subject then tag your shots with some punchline.

I think I am quite clear (though sounding a lil harsh :-P )

By all means you can be harsh. This is Photo Critique section. This is the only way to learn. The idea is to improve and keep standards high. And the only way to achieve it is by being critical and showing and knowing what can be done to improve our standards.

There should always be something behind shooting a photograph. Initially we all shoot subjects like these, a statue, a wall hanging, a flower, a baby and we marvel at the image. However after constant shooting and watching other photographs, we start appreciating "good" photographs. And we trash our earlier works. Keep shooting. And start afresh if you think it is not happening for you.

[arijit]

@bibudesh...i disagree to the point that mobile cameras are meant for certain subjects only. though they surely account for not being able to produce exhibition shots but still they are a good tool for working on frames.
i dont think that critique should involve assessment of the equipment. if you can hit good frames/angles with enough clarity for identification, i think the job is done to an extent. after all the basic photography is identifying the right frames.
as ken's sign goes-"most cameras are better than most photographers"....its a vise-versa too
PS: i am not keeping the the dslrs, p&s, mobcams on single plane!!!

[hitanshu]

arijit, cmon man.

The reason I personally bought the k750i over n72 was the camera's autofocus! Without autofocus, it is essentially a hobbled tool any which way you look at it!

[anvancy-(macro analyst)]

well these(ie some of the good ones) shots "can" be improved in PP!so to a certain extent of colors,sharpness,clarity etc etc can be answered here.

Anvancy

[arijit]

hitanshu i am not against the fact that better cameras, better functions bring about the better of you and the subject. my point is that even if you are operating with a no good equipment you can click good, appreciable photographs of any subject you like.
i give a quote of my work(not because i think myself of some pro or something, but they will help clear my point!!!)...i dont know that if it will appeal to you all but frankly these were of the lot of photographs those gave me confidence about my photography...shot with nokia 6600(vga camera...no option whatsoever ), no PP, no crop...nothing...just SOOC
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2630/4169112970_8415a50a05.jpg
used the available lighting in a tunnel for the shot
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2776/4168350373_b2852accc2.jpg
in my orkut account i have captioned it-"there was no PC sarkar around...it was just a clicking trick"
both of them got the best framing i personally could have utilized!!
a better camera would have made the pics more attractive for sure, but still, to me, they are not trash either!!!

[adarsh1398]

boy...boy....oh boy...i guess i missed a lot of action....


now its a cam mobile..hmm

no1: nice.its showcasing the sheer beauty of Lord Shiva.good shot.my personal fav from the lot.

no 2: kinda those spooky look..interesting.

no 3:is a big oops..no yellow..

no 4:a decent one.nothing to write about.

no 5:mysore palace..a decent shot.

no 6:its totally underexposed.so a goner.

no 7 and 8 are decent but have tilted horizons..

keep on clicking.

Anvancy

No.2 and 3....just a nostalgic feeling:):)

No.6..... N-72....i guess around 5pm in mysore.....:o:o:o

No.7...tilted intentionally....it somehow looked more appealing to me than the straight one....

No.8...realized after returning back ....yeah even i agree that it could have been better....

pic1- better if clicked as portrait than landscape. the extra space on the right and left doesnt have anything to do with the subject(except the symmetry that doesnt hold good when you look the bottom of the frame) while full featuring of the people clicking photos would have added to the theme. other suggestion is to crop all the extras
pic 2,3- well framed
pic 5- the railing is disturbing otherwise a well framed click. again better if cropped
pic 7-slight more accuracy in framing would have made it look much better

No. 1....I have a potrait too...but didnt come very clear....the people part I'll consider next time...

No.5....guess ...will crop off the railing...:o:o:o

@adarsh1398 - The shots are not appealing at all to me ,I have common comments for all the shots-

Number-1 A mobile camera is not suitable to capture the physical beauty of any subject say a temple, landscape etc. But it can be good enough if you are capturing something which does not require high-endness of a camera.

Street photography, abstract is something well suited for a mobile cam. In these subjects you need more of brains than the technology.

All the shots posted by you belongs to one category of shots which needs clarity, better colour, resolution, sharpness, bokeh, DOF etc. which a mobile camera is not capable of doing to a large extent.
This statement maybe controversial since I have seen many people doing wonders with their SE W810i, which I to my best never able to achieve those results.

Number -2 When you are taking any shot you may have something in your mind before composing. I am still trying to understand what was there in your mind before clicking the second drawing room shot !? To me it looks lilke a trial shot for your mobile, I cannot term it as 'Photography'.

Sometimes if you think that people are unable to get the meaning behind subject then tag your shots with some punchline.

I think I am quite clear (though sounding a lil harsh :-P )

Bibudesh da....i am a beginner...may be 0.01 on a scale of 10...i have no idea about clarity, better colour, resolution, sharpness, bokeh, DOF (never heard) etc...will learn slowly...

thanx for your views...will try my level best to improve....thats why i am here...

By all means you can be harsh. This is Photo Critique section. This is the only way to learn. The idea is to improve and keep standards high. And the only way to achieve it is by being critical and showing and knowing what can be done to improve our standards.

There should always be something behind shooting a photograph. Initially we all shoot subjects like these, a statue, a wall hanging, a flower, a baby and we marvel at the image. However after constant shooting and watching other photographs, we start appreciating "good" photographs. And we trash our earlier works. Keep shooting. And start afresh if you think it is not happening for you.

Thanx ken da....hope i will improve in time....seeing many better pics now....:D:D

[KrishnenduKes]

boy...boy....oh boy...i guess i missed a lot of action....

Thanx ken da....hope i will improve in time....seeing many better pics now....:D:D

It is your thread. Good to see action right?

I am sure you will improve with time! :)

[Bibudesh]

Bibudesh da....i am a beginner...may be 0.01 on a scale of 10...i have no idea about clarity, better colour, resolution, sharpness, bokeh, DOF (never heard) etc...will learn slowly...

thanx for your views...will try my level best to improve....thats why i am here...


I must say ' Thats the spirit ! ' . That is how you learn, and that is how we are also learning. U are a beginner, think about us who had been clicking for past 3 years and still get bashings from members here.

But those bashings are necessary, you try your best to change those bashings into admiration. Imagine if in diplomacy I would have said, "wow adarsh what a collection, the drawing room shot is amazing". This would have left no room for you for improvement.

Best way to shoot 'good' photographs is through inspiration. Open photography forums, blogs, hostings(flickr, photobucket etc.) see the photographs of your choice, and try to mimic them.

I am sure if you search 'Nokia N-72' tag in flickr you may find thousands of shots which can give you heavy complexes. Then you give your best.

Learning the jargons are just a matter of less than an hour.

EDIT: THe guy who gave me inferiority complex is ayashok(flickr id ayashok) who has the same equipment but 100k times better photographer than me.

[KrishnenduKes]

Imagine if in diplomacy I would have said, "wow adarsh what a collection, the drawing room shot is amazing". This would have left no room for you for improvement.


Too good! ROTFL!!!

[adarsh1398]

Imagine if in diplomacy I would have said, "wow adarsh what a collection, the drawing room shot is amazing". This would have left no room for you for improvement.



I understand and absolutely agree with your point....I am a science student Bibudhesh da...i have to face criticism everywhere for my work...i have to accept it....and that is how i will improve.....

until i get any better equipment...i guess i will be working with frames...

by the way....checked about bokeh and DOF...nice techniques....you know,,,when i used to see such images earlier ...i used to wonder how these were done:confused::confused::confused:....now i understand,,,,:):):)

saw some of the shots of ayashok...amazing ones....got my exams nw....will keep looking for inspiration...:D:D:D

[arijit]

i guess i will be working with frames
thats the best that can be done with mobile cams and believe me...it helps a lot!!! all the best for your exams:)

[adarsh1398]

thats the best that can be done with mobile cams and believe me...it helps a lot!!! all the best for your exams:)

thanx arijit da....my exams got over yesterday....:p:p:p:p:p

will be doing some short trips nearby...may be to mahabalipuram,kaanchipuram....planning atrip to mysore with my friends...will click some shots and post here in this thread....:cool::cool:

[KrishnenduKes]

Will be waiting for your shots.