anvancy-(macro analyst)
05-01-2009, 10:49 PM
has this thread up before??
couldnt think of a better title.
literally among ill say 50% amateurs say photoshop and lightroom are a taboo to their photography!
now this is a pure opinion based thread.dont come out with word swords swearing that you will kill the person verbally who went against you.taking opinions and telling opinions is one thing.telling and taking the right ones is another.the latter needs practice.
i am gonna start with my views.
i started photography from the first standard.:p.back then i had a fujifilm still camera that my dad had got from egypt.now ofcourse just holding the camera at that stage was like heaven.cause back then taking photo at that age was fun at different level.
fast forward and in 1st year got a pentax optio s55.and my first major shoot with that was the Auto Expo 2006.i didnt do editing that time.just like many i believed in the OOC category.then the second major shoot that was there was during my trip of rafting to rishikesh.at this point i had started to learn photoshop tit bits.
as i progressed further in photography learning different things,i also came to know how versatile and how much potential photoshop really has.i think by the time i got my fuji i already had some knowledge of basic lightroom.
lightroom is sort of adobe bridge and camera raw in a combined format.
slowly learning fuji i kept on experimenting with PS and LR.
now both LR and PS have become essential parts for my workflow.i shoot,then load in LR,do touch ups,then PS again touch ups,resize and post.
now many people dont foray in the "post processing" part.why??because its their status level.u heard me right.there are two things associated here.the purchase of the camera,and the time.
i have observed particularly in us(indians)that we are very very possessive about cameras.its like a status symbol.(that explains half of why every average joe runs after the C or the N.)
what the 50% believe that what we shoot is what the power we have.our camera is the best and it doesnt need post processing.post processing is bad since it hampers the photo!
hampers the photo??duh.your photo is processed already in the built in processor unit of the camera.RAW also needs ACR for conversion of jpgs for web posting or for client submission etc.so processing is an integral part of photography.
in the film category,unless you process in the darkroom its not gonna come out.meaning what??you have to process the shot for it to look like a "photo".
the second aspect that i talked about is time.people have time to shoot.but zero time for edit.ill say the time that you spend surfing channels.u can easily spend just putting an edge to your shot.who knows that the shot u edited may be a winning shot.
photoshop and LR and others like GIMP etc do help a lot not only taking your shot to another level but also the process from a click to a "photo".
the person who edits spends his quality time gaining more from the photo.not because his camera cant perform.but because he wants to take it to next level.
all of us come to these common shots..saturation too high..contrast high low,angle good bad,its all blur,list goes on....
common it was the photographer's idea.he doesnt work under you.he only wants to share his creativity with you.and if everybody just starts to say " U SUCK",have you ever taken a look at your shots??ill not say to those who are really into the professional arena but certainly to amateurs.
that brings me to the critique also.the common human tendency is negativity.your subject is bad,colors are all jazzed up,contrast clarity etc etc..but think what the photographer went thru to take that certain shot.there are limitations when u shoot.
"i would have liked the boy to be on the right".yea right.if you were his client then another story.but if you are just gonna make up upside down,then its not critique.critique should also include the postivity and negativity both.every single shot shot by a sensible photographer has a certain feel,certain story hidden behind it.every shot has 365 degrees angles to look at.if all keep looking at a single angle,then we cant have creativity.we then go on the tried and tested method.
i would like to hear your opinions on this.be it against or for.anyway.but like i said before,no verbal mow chow.
you show respect,you get respect.
anvancy.
couldnt think of a better title.
literally among ill say 50% amateurs say photoshop and lightroom are a taboo to their photography!
now this is a pure opinion based thread.dont come out with word swords swearing that you will kill the person verbally who went against you.taking opinions and telling opinions is one thing.telling and taking the right ones is another.the latter needs practice.
i am gonna start with my views.
i started photography from the first standard.:p.back then i had a fujifilm still camera that my dad had got from egypt.now ofcourse just holding the camera at that stage was like heaven.cause back then taking photo at that age was fun at different level.
fast forward and in 1st year got a pentax optio s55.and my first major shoot with that was the Auto Expo 2006.i didnt do editing that time.just like many i believed in the OOC category.then the second major shoot that was there was during my trip of rafting to rishikesh.at this point i had started to learn photoshop tit bits.
as i progressed further in photography learning different things,i also came to know how versatile and how much potential photoshop really has.i think by the time i got my fuji i already had some knowledge of basic lightroom.
lightroom is sort of adobe bridge and camera raw in a combined format.
slowly learning fuji i kept on experimenting with PS and LR.
now both LR and PS have become essential parts for my workflow.i shoot,then load in LR,do touch ups,then PS again touch ups,resize and post.
now many people dont foray in the "post processing" part.why??because its their status level.u heard me right.there are two things associated here.the purchase of the camera,and the time.
i have observed particularly in us(indians)that we are very very possessive about cameras.its like a status symbol.(that explains half of why every average joe runs after the C or the N.)
what the 50% believe that what we shoot is what the power we have.our camera is the best and it doesnt need post processing.post processing is bad since it hampers the photo!
hampers the photo??duh.your photo is processed already in the built in processor unit of the camera.RAW also needs ACR for conversion of jpgs for web posting or for client submission etc.so processing is an integral part of photography.
in the film category,unless you process in the darkroom its not gonna come out.meaning what??you have to process the shot for it to look like a "photo".
the second aspect that i talked about is time.people have time to shoot.but zero time for edit.ill say the time that you spend surfing channels.u can easily spend just putting an edge to your shot.who knows that the shot u edited may be a winning shot.
photoshop and LR and others like GIMP etc do help a lot not only taking your shot to another level but also the process from a click to a "photo".
the person who edits spends his quality time gaining more from the photo.not because his camera cant perform.but because he wants to take it to next level.
all of us come to these common shots..saturation too high..contrast high low,angle good bad,its all blur,list goes on....
common it was the photographer's idea.he doesnt work under you.he only wants to share his creativity with you.and if everybody just starts to say " U SUCK",have you ever taken a look at your shots??ill not say to those who are really into the professional arena but certainly to amateurs.
that brings me to the critique also.the common human tendency is negativity.your subject is bad,colors are all jazzed up,contrast clarity etc etc..but think what the photographer went thru to take that certain shot.there are limitations when u shoot.
"i would have liked the boy to be on the right".yea right.if you were his client then another story.but if you are just gonna make up upside down,then its not critique.critique should also include the postivity and negativity both.every single shot shot by a sensible photographer has a certain feel,certain story hidden behind it.every shot has 365 degrees angles to look at.if all keep looking at a single angle,then we cant have creativity.we then go on the tried and tested method.
i would like to hear your opinions on this.be it against or for.anyway.but like i said before,no verbal mow chow.
you show respect,you get respect.
anvancy.