New Canon EOS 500D DSLR Releasing Soon!

[Vicky]

I came across this on the web. Not sure if this is real or just a rumor. The photo looks too good to be a fake. I Have never seen a fake with so many views of the camera...

-15-megapixel sensor
-DIGIC IV imaging processor
-ISO levels up to 12800
-an articulating LCD with 900K resolution
-some sort of 1080p "movie mode"

http://product.pcpop.com/000158448/Picture/001143514.html
http://i.gizmodo.com/5174244/rumor-canon-rebel-eos-500d-to-launch-on-march-25th
http://product.pcpop.com/000158524/Index.html

Don't know, whether this is true or not? Very curious..

[KrishnenduKes]

News Approved

Thanks Vicky. Remains to be seen. Looks pretty interesting, other than the popup flash.

[powerslave]

I read that too, but its supposedly a rumour, but who knows. It looks too good to be true, cos no one will buy the 50D if this comes out.

[Psycho_McCrazy]

fake in all probability

take a look at this page
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-Rebel-XSi-450D-Digital-SLR-Camera-Review.aspx

halfway down, there is an image with the same view of the 450D as of the 500D on this page http://product.pcpop.com/000158448/Picture/001143514.html

NOT A SINGLE PHYSICAL CHANGE from the previous model... i find it hard to believe.

also, take a better look at the 500D label. the 500 is slightly misaligned from the D (500 being simple typed text in photoshop, and is perfectly horizontal, but the D being an actual part of the original photo is slanted and misaligned. a photoshop job and a sloppy one at that.

the rumor is just an addition of some 50D specs to doctored photos of the 450D. and also, the side profile view does not have the sufficient jutting out of the LCD to make it an articulating one.

I read that too, but its supposedly a rumour, but who knows. It looks too good to be true, cos no one will buy the 50D if this comes out.
People buy the 50D because of the faster framerate, beter build, better AF system and a lot more other advanced features, and not just the megapixel numbers.....

[powerslave]

Partially true, but putting ISO upto 12800 into the Rebel series, alongside a movie mode, is going to cannibalise the sales of the 50D. The features you mention are for the people who need a 50D, not all those who buy it. With such features on this supposed 500D, it is surely going to cut into the 50D market.

[Psycho_McCrazy]

Partially true, but putting ISO upto 12800 into the Rebel series, alongside a movie mode, is going to cannibalise the sales of the 50D. The features you mention are for the people who need a 50D, not all those who buy it. With such features on this supposed 500D, it is surely going to cut into the 50D market.
which further puts doubt on this 'news'
Canon would never cannibalize its higher profit margin model (50D) by a lower margin model (xxxD/Rebel series) by giving almost equal marketing specifications (megapixels, ISO are the biggest marketing numbers - real buyers look at more important specs as you correctly stated that those advanced features are for those who NEED the 50D)

[nelson_sanjoy]

I think its all more of a strategy - like if you see in case of Nikon - D90 anyday has a better sensor than D300 (infact the best APSC sensor tilldate according to many specially the DXOmark website which I follow religiously )
but still D300 is costly becuase of its build ,faster framerate and AF.

D90 was released later than D300 and hence the extra 1 yr of Nikon research made the sensor better and added the video option to add punch.

[synn]

http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/24/canons-eos-rebel-t1i-DSLR-leaked/

Interesting...

[synn]

Update: It's official, folks! http://i.gizmodo.com/5182772/canon-rebel-t1i-hands+on-50ds-sensor-1080p-vids-899-

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/2009/03/custom_1237932889318_t1i_handson_12.jpg

[Aryan]

Perfect upgrade for my 400D! :D If only the price would be 'affordable'..

[synn]

Going by Canon's pricing strategy here, this may cost around SGD 1.5k (INR 48000 approx) brand new with kit lens. Not bad, although I'm gonna have to save for a while longer to get it. :D

The video part doesn't interest me one bit. The new processor and the 50D's sensor does.

[KrishnenduKes]

799 USD body only which is less than 40000 INR. Which is a decent price. Lets hope there are no bugs in this one.

[Psycho_McCrazy]

this was a wonderful move by canon to make me put my foot in my mouth. The only consolation is that I seem to have been right about the earlier posted images. the camera is actually a different bodyshell.

but honestly, they are sure cannibalizing the 50D by providing a LOT of its features.

the 20fps of the 1080p video is a crippling move, 20fps just doesn't cut it for smooth motion, but atleast it does 720p at full 30fps.

and once more, Canon is confusing me more and more by announcing a pretty darn good camera merely two days before I go to Akihabara to get some lenses and a film body.

[synn]

For a Canon faithful this won't make a difference, but for someone like me who hasn't bought into a "Family" yet, the fact that the D90 is within an arm's reach from this price point IS a major factor. If i'm spending a grand and a half, why not go for a semi-pro body than an entry level one?

Guess I'll have to wait till the actual reviews come out to see what does what.

P.S. Please don't take this as a brand war. It's a genuine concern of someone who hasn't made a purchase decision yet.

[Xavier]

Don't you guys feel that 15mp is an overkill for the APS-C sized sensor?
I've heard that the 50D is facing problems in the high ISO area, won't the 500D face the same?

[KrishnenduKes]

For a Canon faithful this won't make a difference, but for someone like me who hasn't bought into a "Family" yet, the fact that the D90 is within an arm's reach from this price point IS a major factor. If i'm spending a grand and a half, why not go for a semi-pro body than an entry level one?

Guess I'll have to wait till the actual reviews come out to see what does what.

P.S. Please don't take this as a brand war. It's a genuine concern of someone who hasn't made a purchase decision yet.

I know that this is not a brand war. And I realise it is genuine concern after hours of discussion with you. Just my word... and this does not go in endorsing a brand either... you will outgrow your body in at best 4 years no matter how good the body. Invest well in good glass. They will last you a decade read more. Hence start looking for a cam body who gives you good fast glass with incorporated fast silent motors. Your research should be more based on this rather than who is giving glam bodies. Coz in the digital age, all bodies get obsolete the moment you buy it. Glass is independent of this.

[Vicky]

Perfect upgrade for my 400D! :D If only the price would be 'affordable'..

Its a great little camera. No second thoughts about that. But, canon didn't release this as a logical upgrade model for the scores of current 350D/400D/450D owners already out there. They've made this for the guy who's looking to get his first DSLR. This is to lure the 'new' guys into the Canon camp.

Currently the 500D sits in #2 position (after the 1000D) in canon's camera lineup and has an MSPR of $799. Exactly two yrs back when i bought my 400D, it was also placed in the #2 position (after the 350D) in canons body lineup then and also had a similar MSRP of $799. Compared to the 400D, the 500D gives you 15mp against 10, Live view, Larger and higher res LCD, Higher ISO range from 1600 to 12800 and option for 1080p HD! Now, just see for yourself how much more camera you are getting for the same money in 2yrs time:eek:

As for the current rebel owners, they have the XXD series as the next logical upgrade path. Having already spent some real time with their rebels, this group of current Rebel owners now aspire for the more 'real' pro features like better AF System (all cross AF sensors), faster fps (6.5 vs 3), larger & brighter viewfinders, better handling & ergonomics, twin scroll wheels, top lcd, Kelvin WB, ISO adjustment in 1/3 stop, sRaw1 & sRaw2, PC Port, etc, etc..

Given a choice to upgrade to either the 500D (just launched) or a 30D (launched 3yrs back), I would gladly pick up the latter:)

[KrishnenduKes]

Given a choice to upgrade to either the latest 500D or the 3yr old 30D, I would gladly pick up the latter:)

Why so? That is perplexing!

[Aryan]

Given a choice to upgrade to either the latest 500D or the 3yr old 30D, I would gladly pick up the latter:)

I would LOVE to pick up the 50D! :D ;)

[Vicky]

Given a choice to upgrade to either the latest 500D or the 3yr old 30D, I would gladly pick up the latter:)

Would like to clarify that by '3ry old 30D' I meant a 'new' as in unused 30D, but called it 3yrs old as it was launched 3yrs back and is now an obsolete model.

I should have worded this better:o

However, interestingly, brand new 30D's are still available for purchase. Body only price $599! (http://www.amazon.com/Canon-8-2MP-Digital-Camera-Body/dp/B000DZDTKU/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1238060254&sr=8-1)

Why so? That is perplexing!

Now, thought the 500D gives me twice the mp of the 30D, It fails to excite me coz I stopped caring for megapixels after they crossed 7-8mp's. The 500D gives me live view and I could make good use of it, but only in very specific scenarios like macro or to gain critical focus while shooting celestial objects like the moon. I love the idea of being able to soot HD video, but I've never really shot video anyway, so don't really know how much I'll even use this feature. Finally, the larger high res LCD and the higher ISO capability are really tempting... BUT, no thanks, I'd rather have the 30D's better AF System (more responsive and more accurate), faster fps, larger & brighter penta prism viewfinder, better handling & ergonomics, twin scroll wheels, top lcd, Kelvin WB, ISO adjustment in 1/3 stop, and a lot more precise control over almost all settings:)

This might sound like an extreme comparison, but, would you pick up the latest Yamaha R15 with alloy wheels, disk brakes, liquid cooling, mono shock suspension, and all the latest gizmos or a Yamaha RD350 with spoked wheels, drum brakes, back breaking suspension but 35bhp:rolleyes: Considering both are available brand new.

I would LOVE to pick up the 50D! :D ;)

I would rather suggest you either pick up a good condition used 40D which are going for around $600~700 mark or wait for the upcoming 60D:rolleyes:

I'm doing the latter:rolleyes:

[Psycho_McCrazy]

Given a choice to upgrade to either the 500D (just launched) or a 30D (launched 3yrs back), I would gladly pick up the latter:)If one needs the features that only the xxD series can offer, this is a no brainer... and given that this camera would drive the prices of 50D down by eating into its market, the 40D would become an even sweeter deal.
The only real thing this got is the 3 inch 920000 dot VGA screen. That many megapixels on an APS-C camera are only going to reveal the shortcomings of your glass. Diffraction effects at f8, gimme a break. Look to many more people yearning for expensive as (hel)L glass. Maybe that's what canon wants to do.....

I would LOVE to pick up the 50D! :D ;)
I would recommend spending that much dough on L zooms or some of the better primes so that when you actually upgrade the body, you actually have the glass to utilise that many pixellzz... (the 100 macro perhaps can handle anything that the sensor throws at it though)

anyway, in a few hours i am off to Tokyo, first for the Photo Imaging Expo '09 (http://www.photoimagingexpo.com/index2.html) and then to Akihabara. Pray for Canon primes & Film Bodies, Pray for Nikkor Primes and Film Bodies, pray for some velvia and pray for some Neopan Acros

[synn]

There's a D60 replacemenr that has been rumoured in nikonrumours.com. Maybe that will be unveiled there. :)

[motorcycho]

Finally its not a rumor anymore!!

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos500d/

Asked a local dealer for the prices, he expects it to be somewhere around 50-52k.
Don't know if its a 50D killer, but it'll definitely cream the 40D!!

[anvancy-(macro analyst)]

nice..but 15mp on same CMOS??or new dimension??if same then noise at the 500d level will be more.

hell even a 30d or 40d works.

glass is more precise.

[powerslave]

All I'm dreaming about is a used 1d MkIII. To hell with all other bodies. I know if I buy that, I'll be a happy man for at least a few years. Need to save up.

[Xavier]

Don't know if its a 50D killer, but it'll definitely cream the 40D!!

There couldn't have been a more incorrect statement than this one.
As pointed out by Vicky and others in this thread, a person opts for the XXD series for entirely different reasons. And I completely agree with the '30D > 500D' statement.
IMO, the 40D is the best APS-C Canon camera right now. Since both the 50D and the 500D share the same sensor which wont work so favourably at high ISOs. The 40D has a 3" display (although a 230k resolution one), Live View, frame rate of 6.5 fps and owing to the recently launched 50D, you now get the 40D at around 50k. So, why go for the 500D?!! :o

[Sarao]

I still wont go with 500D. As above replies said, MP doesnt matter at all if you are not going to get a print more than 8x11. So why so much hunting or saving for a more MP body when you are only going to upload photos over a website to share or to keep them as backgrounds of your desktop? If given the choice, good glass will be my way to go.

[Sarao]

Ohh and BTW, if any one is intrested to pre-order

http://www.unwir3d.com/887297/where-pre-order-canon-eos-500d-rebel-t1i-dslr

:p

[Rockkyyy]

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=139&modelid=18385#ModelDetailAct

[Rockkyyy]

Guys check this out ... video /pic taken from 500d

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-9973-9976

[Aryan]

Guys check this out ... video /pic taken from 500d

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-9973-9976
Lovely! The idea of shooting video clips using different lenses is just awesome. ;)