Nokia N86 - The P&S with a phone?

[Xavier]

Nokia has announced their latest smartphone from the N-Series family, the Nokia N86 with an 8mp sensor. Check this link

Nokia N86 (http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_mwc_09-review-318.php)

More than the 8mp resolution (which is available on SE and Samsung phones as well), its the wide angle (28mm) and the variable aperture (F2.4/F3.2/F4.8) that excites me. Of course, lack of optical zoom is still a drawback.

Do you people think that the gap between entry to mid level P&S cameras and mobile phones has finally been filled?

[KrishnenduKes]

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With those optics on the phones, I doubt that they will close the gap with P&S whose lenses are bigger with better optics...

[powerslave]

There was some news about the first phone cam with a physical shutter, that's one step in the right direction.

But it'll be long way before a P&S can be beat feature+quality wise by a phone cam.

[KrishnenduKes]

But it'll be long way before a P&S can be beat feature+quality wise by a phone cam.

Long way as in never!

[Xavier]

There was some news about the first phone cam with a physical shutter, that's one step in the right direction

AFAIK, The Samsung INNOV8 was the first camera phone to host a mechanical shutter.


But it'll be long way before a P&S can be beat feature+quality wise by a phone cam.

Speaking of which, here's a good read on comparision between the Samsung INNOV8 (8mp cameraphone) and a Canon IXUS.

http://www.mobile-review.com/review/samsung-innov8-camera-en.shtml

The results are pretty comparable (and in some cases the INNOV8 even outshines the Canon). I'm not a big fan of the current cameraphones, but it would be great if you can carry a small and decent camera with you all the time, and what better solution to that than a mobile phone? :D

[KrishnenduKes]

The results are pretty comparable (and in some cases the INNOV8 even outshines the Canon). :D

I would not mind if I could make phone calls with a 450D!!! :D A trifle cumbersome though.

[powerslave]

AFAIK, The Samsung INNOV8 was the first camera phone to host a mechanical shutter.



Speaking of which, here's a good read on comparision between the Samsung INNOV8 (8mp cameraphone) and a Canon IXUS.

http://www.mobile-review.com/review/samsung-innov8-camera-en.shtml

The results are pretty comparable (and in some cases the INNOV8 even outshines the Canon). I'm not a big fan of the current cameraphones, but it would be great if you can carry a small and decent camera with you all the time, and what better solution to that than a mobile phone? :D
The phone obviously isn't really comparable - fixed focal length, I'm assuming the sensor size is smaller than 1/2.5" and no IS etc.

It is a kickass phone and phonecam no doubt, but the digicam is way better. Pretty impressive test shots though.

[KrishnenduKes]

Yes. Pretty impressive sample shots no doubt. Although I am quite sceptical of such test shots, but here I will take it as it comes. Seems like it is one of the best cam-phones with delivering pretty good pictures. I hope the phone per se is good with a decent battery standby time.

[Xavier]

I would not mind if I could make phone calls with a 450D!!! :D A trifle cumbersome though.

I guess you need this
http://blogulate.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/41megapixel-cameraphone.jpg

:p

The phone obviously isn't really comparable - fixed focal length, I'm assuming the sensor size is smaller than 1/2.5" and no IS etc.

It is a kickass phone and phonecam no doubt, but the digicam is way better. Pretty impressive test shots though.

Yes. Pretty impressive sample shots no doubt. Although I am quite sceptical of such test shots, but here I will take it as it comes. Seems like it is one of the best cam-phones with delivering pretty good pictures. I hope the phone per se is good with a decent battery standby time.

I completely agree. There's a lot of room for improvement and I feel that this is definitely a step in the right direction for camera phones.

[KrishnenduKes]

I guess you need this
http://blogulate.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/41megapixel-cameraphone.jpg

:p


DAMN! Where did you get that Kiev? I started my photography with a rangefinder Kiev! That was 24 years ago!!! :)

[Xavier]

DAMN! Where did you get that Kiev? I started my photography with a rangefinder Kiev! That was 24 years ago!!! :)

I had no idea about the Kiev. Just googled 'funny camera phone' and this is the one that popped out first.
24 years? :O That's a long time! The camera looks nice and sexy! Is it of Russian make?

Oh ok bigtime OT here.

Well not actually, coz we're still discussing 'camera phones' :p