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anvancy-(macro analyst)
01-26-2009, 11:09 AM
I first got my fuji 6500 on 1st july. Its a great cam.

I was always fascinated by small subjects. So after some months I decided that I'll buy some macro adapters.

So there I was. Sitting in front of my comp, searching various macro addons. As I was browsing through, there was hoya, canon, oly etc. But then I stumbled upon the raynox kit. What different raynox was from others was that it was actually a lens. Unlike canon and hoya which are actually FILTERS. Here raynox was a proper magnification capable lens. Immediately I started going deep into the raynox investigation, price, performance, availability, capability etc etc..all this under various forums and all had one answer.

A definite yes.

So when one of my relatives was coming from US, I decided to order the raynox cm 2000 kit.

Finally in december, my relative presented me the raynox kit. Happy as a kid, I immediately went to my grandmother's garden..(we all had gathered at grandma's house in chattisgarh.)immediately read manual..glanced it..and removed the pack.

Now here starts my whole experience.

The company gives the lenses in a nice dust free box. Both the lenses are neatly covered by plastic covers. The upper diameter of the lens is 49mm while the lower is 43mm. The universal adapter has its own casing. The adapter supports 52mm to 67mm threads. Mostly all in the range.

The manual is detailed. Nicely explained.

There are two lenses;the DCR 150 and the DCR 250.ie.1.5x and 2.5x. The first is a 4 diopter lens while the latter is a 8 diopter. You can find the tech info online.

The lenses use the tele power to magnify the subjects.
The 150 gives actual 1:1 at 200mm while the 250 gives 1:1 at 100mm itself.beyond 200mm and 100mm it goes like 1.25x..etc.
The 150 max is 1.75x while the 250 gives 2.75x at 300mm.pretty mag indeed.when u combine both u get a 3.75x mag babu..its awesome in that field.

The lenses are a screw on feature. You just screw the lens onto your adapter,the adapter clicks on your camera thread,and you are good to go.

So I removed the 150,attached it,and went to the garden. Saw a fly,went near it,and then????

All blur.

Even if you put it at 300mm the main factor playing with raynox is the DISTANCE between the subject and the camera.
First you have to get close to the subject. When you get close you have to actually fine tune your distance between you and the subject; this adjustment gives you the exact precise sharpness needed. Once you find that spot you just autofocus,the subject where the camera adjust its distance accordingly,and you can do MF to adjust and fine tune the focusing part.

The adjustment is the first and difficult part.you must have patience while using this lens. The second factor involved is the subject itself. If you go too near a subject it may get spooked and run away..ok..fly away. :D . But most get stunned when you get close. As you master the lens, then tripod is mostly not needed and you can go handheld. though I still prefer the tripod.

Also you must have a tripod in your initial stages with the raynox. Shooting macros with tripods is very essential.

DOF is another story. You have a LOT of bokeh in this. Even if you shoot at F16 still You will get bokeh. Raynox recommends F8 for best results.

well..thats all I can think..if you have any queries, do ask..or any other questions doubts etc..

Regarding quality, sharpness, clarity etc etc..I will let the photos do the talking.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/anvancy/sets/72157603535348095/


Even SUNNY has the same kit.

And raynox is an investment like ur DSLR lenses. You can use them on to any tele lens that you have.

Hope you enjoyed the experience.

anvancy.

KrishnenduKes
01-26-2009, 10:09 PM
Review Approved

Good initiative Anvancy. I hope you will be able to show us some pics showing upper diametre and the lower diametre and what the contraption looks like... thanks...

anvancy-(macro analyst)
01-27-2009, 03:52 PM
Review Approved

Good initiative Anvancy. I hope you will be able to show us some pics showing upper diametre and the lower diametre and what the contraption looks like... thanks...

you mean how the lens looks on the camera..sure..will do that.

Xavier
04-18-2009, 01:56 PM
Review Approved

Good initiative Anvancy. I hope you will be able to show us some pics showing upper diametre and the lower diametre and what the contraption looks like... thanks...

Errr Anvancy, any updates on this?
I would also love to see the pics of the entire kit in action :)

KrishnenduKes
04-18-2009, 09:55 PM
Yeah. Me too, I am still waiting...

anvancy-(macro analyst)
04-24-2009, 06:45 PM
after 25th...

anvancy-(macro analyst)
04-26-2009, 02:05 PM
finally exams over.got time now.

so time now for comparsion time.

firstly.many think that their camera's macro mode is enough.let me clarify that the macro that comes in those compacts is not macro.its "close up".there is a difference between close up and macro.in close up you merely go close to the subject.in actual macro,u fill your frame with the object.

let us see how.

i took my titan watch as a test subject.
camera was mounted on tripod.i will show different shots and distance that was there between the camera and the subject.

so shall we proceed ahead??

this time nice 1024 resolutions.

first off the watch in camera's macro mode.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3326/3475816100_92acf1b51a_o.jpg

you take such shots mostly of flowers,where u want the whole subject.part one close up.

next is camera's super macro mode.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3614/3475816300_81d6ff3132_o.jpg


this is how close my camera super macro mode goes.pretty decent.but still no macro.

now i put my first lens ie the raynox 150.

first the distance.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3576/3475007055_1b51c7baeb_o.jpg

thats the distance between the camera and the subject.

the result with raynox 150 1.5x magnification at 300mm.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3648/3475006317_273f49f401_o.jpg

now we are starting to fill our frame.the 150 is mainly used for slight magnifications.where you need the whole subject but magnified.mostly useful for everything.

ill be focusing on the titan part.

next is the raynox 250.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3562/3475817674_d061d3cca3_o.jpg

notice how the distance reduces between the camera and the subject??
thats because of multiple factors like sensor,subject size,the DOF of both the raynox and the other lens etc.

the result.at 300mm 2.5x

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3651/3475816736_3a0025e535_o.jpg

now this is a macro.you have completely filled ur frame.notice that now u have to find that perfect sweet spot.and finding that sweet spot requires u to adjust distance.

next is the 150 and 250 combined.now here is the OOF DOF that we get.and bokeh is a lot.the DOF is just razor thin.and the difficulty raises even further.so does the patience.

notice how the distance drastically reduces between the subject and the camera?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3654/3475819048_32422dcc3a_o.jpg

when i measured it came to a mere 5 inches.

the result.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3583/3475818210_8c0a196eba_o.jpg



u just have to really hunt down for that spot of focus.and its really hard.and requires patience.note that the dof is on the T A N and then loses up and down both.crops work great.


hope the comparison helps.mainly this requires "skill" and is not a out of box usage lens.you have to first spend time with the lens understanding how it functions.and then understand it how it works under every unique photo condition.this understanding requires patience.which many dont have.thus they never enter the raynox territory and flaunt that their camera can take great macros.ie the one without any macro lenses.:p

all the shots are OOC ones.no sharpness applied.all shots of fuji were taken at F8 as specified by raynox.

any more queries u know where to knock!

anvancy.

KrishnenduKes
04-26-2009, 09:41 PM
Great stuff Anvancy! Really enjoyed looking at that instructional post. Now we are beginning to look at interesting territory.

Aryan
04-27-2009, 12:39 AM
Man, I would love to take some shots of both the kits combined on the 100mm Canon macro lens, set at a 1:1 magnification ratio! ;)

P.S: Thanks a lot for the detailed photographic explanation; gives somebody like me quite an insight into shooting macro photographs using the Raynox kit. :) Appreciate all the effort Anvancy.

anvancy-(macro analyst)
04-27-2009, 10:16 AM
thanks Ken.that interesting territory requires immense patience.so when u have time,enter:D

Aryan,the lens will work optimal in the zoom category rather than a prime one.ofcourse you can try the lenses with the 100 but you will have to spend a lot of time searching for the sweet spot.

anvancy.

KrishnenduKes
04-27-2009, 10:43 AM
thanks Ken.that interesting territory requires immense patience.so when u have time,enter:D

I can see that you have the "time"! :)

Aryan,the lens will work optimal in the zoom category rather than a prime one.
anvancy.

And why so?

anvancy-(macro analyst)
04-27-2009, 10:59 AM
I can see that you have the "time"! :)

i rather take time out and use it rather than waiting for time coming to me.


And why so?

the lens use the zoom as their magnification power.the more zoom you have the more magnification you get.its like this.if you have a 150mm tele,that relates to 150*1.5x=225mm*2.5x of the raynox=562.5mm of effective macro capability.

compare that to a 300mm tele where 300*1.5x crop factor=450mm*2.5x of the raynox=1125mm of effective macro range.

the numbers themselves tell the story.here the crop factor also plays.more the factor greater is the mag.

in my part,the crop factor doesnt come since my is not a DSLR.so my is just 300*2.5x=750mm of effective macro range which in terms of 35mm is 135*2.5=337.5mm of macro range.

anvancy.

KrishnenduKes
04-27-2009, 11:25 AM
I can see that you have the "time"! :)




I was punning because of your choice of subject. :)

anvancy-(macro analyst)
04-28-2009, 10:23 AM
the beauty of the raynox 150 is this.

you can take like this

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3627/3479653441_4381e27d41.jpg


or even this.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3617/3480462446_7bbe172b6c.jpg

like i said..slight magnification.

anvancy.

Xavier
04-28-2009, 12:53 PM
Awesome job Anvancy! Really helpful stuff!

anvancy-(macro analyst)
04-28-2009, 01:04 PM
Awesome job Anvancy! Really helpful stuff!

glad u liked it!

KrishnenduKes
04-28-2009, 02:01 PM
Brilliant stuff Anvancy. And the lighting looks perfect too.

anvancy-(macro analyst)
04-28-2009, 05:21 PM
Brilliant stuff Anvancy. And the lighting looks perfect too.


just the light of the humble sun.

KrishnenduKes
04-28-2009, 05:29 PM
just the light of the humble sun.

Yes; I guess nothing like the available natural light.

nelson_sanjoy
04-28-2009, 08:19 PM
Just got the kit from Adorama store - they were giving a discount .

Will try to post some photos this weekend . Moreover I just figured out that its compatible with my camcorder also .So I can take some macro HD videos :))

anvancy-(macro analyst)
04-29-2009, 08:48 AM
Just got the kit from Adorama store - they were giving a discount .

Will try to post some photos this weekend . Moreover I just figured out that its compatible with my camcorder also .So I can take some macro HD videos :))


thats great nelson.

do try it out.ill say at first you will not get proper sharp images.but keep on playing.once u understand the optics then its easy.

i would advise u to use the tripod instead of straight going for handheld.since handheld is level 2.:D


anvancy.

KrishnenduKes
04-29-2009, 10:55 AM
i would advise u to use the tripod instead of straight going for handheld.since handheld is level 2.:D


anvancy.

Phew! :)

anvancy-(macro analyst)
04-29-2009, 11:29 AM
Phew! :)

btw..those water lily shots are handheld.:)

anvancy-(macro analyst)
04-29-2009, 01:33 PM
again a new water lily.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3580/3484907739_964375ae9b.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3312/3484908131_f249fe2e08.jpg

anvancy.

KrishnenduKes
04-29-2009, 05:22 PM
again a new water lily.

anvancy.

All handheld I suppose with the same kit.

nelson_sanjoy
04-29-2009, 09:21 PM
thats great nelson.

do try it out.ill say at first you will not get proper sharp images.but keep on playing.once u understand the optics then its easy.

i would advise u to use the tripod instead of straight going for handheld.since handheld is level 2.:D


anvancy.

Thanks @Avancy :) .
Now the only problem is I dont have a telephoto zoom lens to get the best out of it . I am thinking of a Sigma APO DG Macro 70-300 . What say? Anything else thats better for use with this set.

anvancy-(macro analyst)
04-30-2009, 09:50 AM
All handheld I suppose with the same kit.

yup ken..handheld.

nelson,check the lens review and others like tamron or others..

nelson_sanjoy
05-03-2009, 08:16 AM
A shot from Raynox M-150 and Tamron 28-75
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3307/3494034741_8649ed9540_b.jpg
Camera: Canon EOS Digital Rebel XSi
Exposure: 2
Aperture: f/11.0
Focal Length: 75 mm
ISO Speed: 100
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
Flash: Off

Another one from Raynox M-250 and Tamron 28-75
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3596/3494033337_05c8075503_b.jpg
Camera: Canon EOS Digital Rebel XSi
Exposure: 2.5
Aperture: f/11.0
Focal Length: 75 mm
ISO Speed: 100
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
Flash: Off

Raynox M-250 and and M-150 combined with Tamron 28-75
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3340/3494854394_1a30ba66e3_b.jpg
Camera: Canon EOS Digital Rebel XSi
Exposure: 6
Aperture: f/13.0
Focal Length: 75 mm
ISO Speed: 100
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
Flash: Off
All these photos above have been cropped a little.


Just for comparison - below is from canon 100 mm Macro...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3356/3206862882_1f1d14dc5d_b.jpg
Camera: Canon EOS Digital Rebel XSi
Exposure: 3.2
Aperture: f/11.0
Focal Length: 100 mm
ISO Speed: 100
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
Flash: Off

KrishnenduKes
05-03-2009, 09:51 AM
A shot from Raynox M-150 and Tamron 28-75

Another one from Raynox M-250 and Tamron 28-75

Raynox M-250 and and M-150 combined with Tamron 28-75

All these photos above have been cropped a little.

Just for comparison - below is from canon 100 mm Macro...


I have a feeling I have seen these before...

anvancy-(macro analyst)
05-03-2009, 10:32 AM
A shot from Raynox M-150 and Tamron 28-75
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3307/3494034741_8649ed9540_b.jpg

Another one from Raynox M-250 and Tamron 28-75
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3596/3494033337_05c8075503_b.jpg

Raynox M-250 and and M-150 combined with Tamron 28-75
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3340/3494854394_1a30ba66e3_b.jpg
All these photos above have been cropped a little.

Just for comparison - below is from canon 100 mm Macro...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3356/3206862882_1f1d14dc5d_b.jpg


quite interesting.is that canon shot from the same lens that aryan has??

the subject looks like a cool abstract.sort of fractals.what is it exactly?

anvancy.

Aryan
05-03-2009, 11:00 AM
quite interesting.is that canon shot from the same lens that aryan has??

the subject looks like a cool abstract.sort of fractals.what is it exactly?

anvancy.
No Anvancy, he used the Tamron zoom lens (which is not a macro lens, I suppose), while I have the Canon 100mm f2.8 USM macro lens/

@Nelson: Nice work. :) Did you use flash as well, or the available light was good enough? I see the depth of field is narrow, what apertures did you use to shoot these pictures, especially because the Raynox kit was attached to the Tamron. :rolleyes:

KrishnenduKes
05-03-2009, 11:16 AM
No Anvancy, he used the Tamron zoom lens (which is not a macro lens, I suppose), while I have the Canon 100mm f2.8 USM macro lens/


I am quoting part of his text right below, where he does say that he is using the 100mm Macro!

A shot from Raynox M-150 and Tamron 28-75
Just for comparison - below is from canon 100 mm Macro...

Aryan
05-03-2009, 11:51 AM
I am quoting part of his text right below, where he does say that he is using the 100mm Macro!
Oh, my bad. I missed that part completely. :o

Thanks!

I have a feeling I have seen these before...
:D On xBhp perhaps. Even I remember seeing these photographs before at the 'Photography and Critique' thread there.

nelson_sanjoy
05-03-2009, 01:01 PM
I have a feeling I have seen these before...

Yes @Kenda I have posted the fourth pic earlier in some forum - Its an old pic that was taken from a rented Canon 100mm macro . I posted it just to compare the magnification and IQ of the first three since its a 1:1.

No Anvancy, he used the Tamron zoom lens (which is not a macro lens, I suppose), while I have the Canon 100mm f2.8 USM macro lens/

@Nelson: Nice work. :) Did you use flash as well, or the available light was good enough? I see the depth of field is narrow, what apertures did you use to shoot these pictures, especially because the Raynox kit was attached to the Tamron. :rolleyes:

@Aryan - Glad you liked it.I used Canon 100 mm macro just for the last pic for a comparo eventough I think Raynox would be better with a slightly higher focal length lens than a 75mm.I didnt use the flash but used tripod and remote ...

Also I am sorry that I forgot to attach the EXIF for the pics which caused all the confusion .done now...

anvancy-(macro analyst)
05-03-2009, 01:11 PM
Yes @Kenda I have posted the fourth pic earlier in some forum - Its an old pic that was taken from a rented Canon 100mm macro . I posted it just to compare the magnification and IQ of the first three since its a 1:1.



@Aryan - Glad you liked it.I used Canon 100 mm macro just for the last pic for a comparo eventough I think Raynox would be better with a slightly higher focal length lens than a 75mm.I didnt use the flash but used tripod and remote ...

Also I am sorry that I forgot to attach the EXIF for the pics which caused all the confusion .done now...

when u get ur tele,see the magic of the raynox beyond 150..ull love it.

KrishnenduKes
05-03-2009, 01:24 PM
when u get ur tele,see the magic of the raynox beyond 150..ull love it.

I was browsing through the Raynox home page. And then I went back to the first pages of this thread since I remembered that after a point you were using the DCR150 and the DCR250 simultaneously.

Pardon my ignorance but I just wanted to ask if there are any thread compatibility issues while doing this with two Raynoxes and if one universal adapter will suit for attaching both lenses to my 200L for example. That is the longest that I have with a filter dia of 72mm.

anvancy-(macro analyst)
05-03-2009, 05:23 PM
I was browsing through the Raynox home page. And then I went back to the first pages of this thread since I remembered that after a point you were using the DCR150 and the DCR250 simultaneously.

Pardon my ignorance but I just wanted to ask if there are any thread compatibility issues while doing this with two Raynoxes and if one universal adapter will suit for attaching both lenses to my 200L for example. That is the longest that I have with a filter dia of 72mm.


when you attach both raynoxes simultaneously,vignetting will be huge.cause focusing area is low.as you zoom,you move to the center of the optics.people say that using the "center" focus method of the camera,you achieve max sharpness.but i have tried multi,center and area.all work good.its upto you.

the largest that the raynox adapter can handle is 67mm.so 72 will be big for the adapter to fit in.there are step up and step down rings available.mostly on net.

what i use for joining both raynoxes is an oil seal.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3343/3475009235_1e82fb292f.jpg

so you screw on one lens to the adapter,put a double tape on the front of the lens,like bordering it,then put the second lens in the oil seal and press the oil seal firm to the tape.cheap home made solution.

search for step up rings.

anvancy.

KrishnenduKes
05-04-2009, 09:10 AM
what i use for joining both raynoxes is an oil seal.

so you screw on one lens to the adapter,put a double tape on the front of the lens,like bordering it,then put the second lens in the oil seal and press the oil seal firm to the tape.cheap home made solution.

search for step up rings.

anvancy.

Excuse me! An "Oil Seal"? Did you just say that? There are oil seals for lenses?

You mean I have to look for step Down rings. Which means vignetting WIll be an issue. No escaping that.

Thanks for the details.

anvancy-(macro analyst)
05-04-2009, 10:42 AM
Excuse me! An "Oil Seal"? Did you just say that? There are oil seals for lenses?

You mean I have to look for step Down rings. Which means vignetting WIll be an issue. No escaping that.

Thanks for the details.

i redefined the use of an oil seal.:p

vignetting is there at first stages of the lens.as u zoom it disappears.

KrishnenduKes
05-04-2009, 11:17 AM
i redefined the use of an oil seal.:p

vignetting is there at first stages of the lens.as u zoom it disappears.

I cannot "zoom". I stay put. I got primes only. So what do you suggest if I were to go Macro? What is my best bet? Step downs only? Or are there other solutions? I am just a beginner in this.

rio008
05-25-2009, 01:48 PM
i redefined the use of an oil seal.:p

vignetting is there at first stages of the lens.as u zoom it disappears.

its a great thread. very useful for the macro lovers
i am having few questions
1. i am having a nikon 18-55mm and 70-300mm lens, which one will be suitable ?
2. i search here in dubai but i didnt find any dealer. Can i order online?
3. what is the price ?

anvancy-(macro analyst)
05-25-2009, 02:31 PM
its a great thread. very useful for the macro lovers
i am having few questions
1. i am having a nikon 18-55mm and 70-300mm lens, which one will be suitable ?
2. i search here in dubai but i didnt find any dealer. Can i order online?
3. what is the price ?

for 1.the 70-300.greater zoom will have greater mag.but do check if ur thread matches till 67.the raynox supports 52 till 67mm threads.

for 2.ur best bet is to order online.many dont know what this lens is.so dealers do not keep stock of it.cause when they do keep it,they have to sell it.otherwise its a loss to them.

for 3.the kit is for 100$ approx.

anvancy.

rio008
05-25-2009, 04:12 PM
any trusted web site ? ebay ?

for 1.the 70-300.greater zoom will have greater mag.but do check if ur thread matches till 67.the raynox supports 52 till 67mm threads.

for 2.ur best bet is to order online.many dont know what this lens is.so dealers do not keep stock of it.cause when they do keep it,they have to sell it.otherwise its a loss to them.

for 3.the kit is for 100$ approx.

anvancy.

KrishnenduKes
05-25-2009, 06:41 PM
any trusted web site ? ebay ?

Try this:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/370594-REG/Raynox_CM2000K_CM_2000_1_5x_2_5x_Macro_Lens.html

anvancy-(macro analyst)
05-25-2009, 07:33 PM
any trusted web site ? ebay ?

www.adorama.com

anvancy-(macro analyst)
05-26-2009, 09:30 AM
many will say that they will need the 250 since it gives a greater mag.but the thing is each situation will require a different magnification number.

so this time around the 150 was of use to me.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2434/3563160730_db6c490195.jpg

the dolby one is a stacked processed one.one shot focus is on the dolby word,the second shot is on the home theater word.the fuzz that u are seeing is actually the finish of the sticker!:p

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2479/3562328267_556fe956cc.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2444/3563142938_17acc7200f.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3612/3563141792_01260f60df.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2432/3563140490_91c5ff1bde.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2475/3562322613_973885cf54.jpg

suppose i take an example of the above shot.had i used the 250,the result would be only the M or a in perfect focus.the noise that u see is the finish of the cooler master.

hope u enjoyed it.

anvancy.

KrishnenduKes
05-26-2009, 09:38 AM
many will say that they will need the 250 since it gives a greater mag.but the thing is each situation will require a different magnification number.

so this time around the 150 was of use to me.

the dolby one is a stacked processed one.one shot focus is on the dolby word,the second shot is on the home theater word.the fuzz that u are seeing is actually the finish of the sticker!:p

suppose i take an example of the above shot.had i used the 250,the result would be only the M or a in perfect focus.the noise that u see is the finish of the cooler master.

hope u enjoyed it.

anvancy.

Yes. I sure enjoyed it. Quite instructive indeed. Maybe now, there should be a tech thread on how to do "stacking".

Xavier
11-21-2009, 07:34 AM
Anvay, the Kenko extension tubes cost around $150 for the 3 set of tubes. What advantages/disadvantages does the Raynox kit have over these tubes? I know that the ets are hollow and hence do not degrade the optics in any manner.

anvancy-(macro analyst)
11-21-2009, 12:56 PM
Anvay, the Kenko extension tubes cost around $150 for the 3 set of tubes. What advantages/disadvantages does the Raynox kit have over these tubes? I know that the ets are hollow and hence do not degrade the optics in any manner.

are the tubes electronically coupled??as in motors??

the problem of extension tubes is that auto focus doesnt work.true that macro photography relies on manual focusing but manual is when u want a part to be focused.auto focusing helps a lot during macro since ur initial distance is set.

there are dozens who take the extension tubes..but then they graduate to raynox saying raynox has better quality than extension..extension tubes are just a juggad way of entering into macro photography.if i were u i would instead pay 75$+shipping for raynox instead of the tubes..u are getting "precision made" macro glass in very less money..

ur call.but extension will have lots of patience coupled with it.raynox will halve that.

anvancy

Xavier
11-21-2009, 05:25 PM
are the tubes electronically coupled??as in motors??
Yep, the Canon and Kenko ones are. The cheap ones aren't. No AF and no control over aperture for these cheap tubes.

the problem of extension tubes is that auto focus doesnt work.true that macro photography relies on manual focusing but manual is when u want a part to be focused.auto focusing helps a lot during macro since ur initial distance is set.
Read above. :)

there are dozens who take the extension tubes..but then they graduate to raynox saying raynox has better quality than extension..extension tubes are just a juggad way of entering into macro photography.if i were u i would instead pay 75$+shipping for raynox instead of the tubes..u are getting "precision made" macro glass in very less money..
ur call.but extension will have lots of patience coupled with it.raynox will halve that.

Hmm, I'm not planning on buying either for sometime. But will definitely keep both options open. The exciting thing about tubes is that they are hollow, thus no glass elements uses, which means that there's no degradation in Image quality.

anvancy-(macro analyst)
11-21-2009, 06:08 PM
Yep, the Canon and Kenko ones are. The cheap ones aren't. No AF and no control over aperture for these cheap tubes.


Read above. :)


Hmm, I'm not planning on buying either for sometime. But will definitely keep both options open. The exciting thing about tubes is that they are hollow, thus no glass elements uses, which means that there's no degradation in Image quality.

having used raynox for the past 3 years i will vouch for its quality.simple.ill still advise buying raynox and using it on ur sigma.if u want to buy extension tubes then its ur call..

anvancy

Nakul
11-21-2009, 10:57 PM
Hi,

I am on the verge of placing an order for a Raynox DCR 250. Have asked my friend in Singapore to get me one, if he is able to find a dealer who sells them,i would get it by December 2nd week.

One of the local dealers here told me he could get me Sonia Closeup adapter. As per him, its used for Macro. I searched the offical website and found it to be the same. He was not ready to discuss the price and details on the phone though. But is it the same thing ?

Just attaching the link i found the same, so you could just check that for me.

http://www.soniaphoto.com/products.php?cno=4

thanks.. :)

anvancy-(macro analyst)
11-22-2009, 10:49 AM
Hi,

I am on the verge of placing an order for a Raynox DCR 250. Have asked my friend in Singapore to get me one, if he is able to find a dealer who sells them,i would get it by December 2nd week.

One of the local dealers here told me he could get me Sonia Closeup adapter. As per him, its used for Macro. I searched the offical website and found it to be the same. He was not ready to discuss the price and details on the phone though. But is it the same thing ?

Just attaching the link i found the same, so you could just check that for me.

http://www.soniaphoto.com/products.php?cno=4

thanks.. :)

you get SONIA lenses at jjmehta.my friend has it.tried it..they are screw on types.they do work for macro ranges but they carry CA with it.it will be better to buy raynox since they are engineered to counter CA..i m not saying that sonia doesnt perform..but the quality in front of raynox is inferior.

also ill suggest to go for the cm2000 kit..both the 150 and 250.150 is specially useful for flowers and objects where u want to showcase everything and simultaneously want a decent magnification.thats where the 150 helps.the lily shots are an example.

if he cant find in singapore..try HONG KONG.

Anvancy